*This* is why I subscribed. It's everything I've thought about Newsom as a Californian but articulated better.
What really irks me is how overtly national every campaign he has run has been. Even the recall, the most prominent ad I saw featured Elizabeth Warren saying "Don't let Trump Republicans fool you!" Fine, I'm a Democrat I'm not going to let Larry Elder take charge, but they definitely decided the way to win was to frame it as part of the national struggle vs what Newsom will be doing in California for Californians.
A few weeks ago during the heat wave there was an alert to turn off our power to prevent blackouts. To our credit we as a state we did so. There are still ads to conserve electricity in the evenings. I'm glad a crisis was averted but what are we doing to increase capacity so we can actually use electricity when we want to. This is a local kitchen table issue and Newsom is totally absent here.
I have immense respect for Nancy Pelosi, who I think has been an incredible Speaker, but she's of a different generation. Between Harris's wet thump and Newsom's general ick, I'm ready for a moratorium on California Democrats getting active nationally until we figure out what the heck's going on.
Thank you Josh. I obviously would prefer Newsom to a DeSantis presidency but at this point Newsom needs to worry more about CA than anything else. I think he's a decent Governor, but that doesn't mean you can win a national election, I hate that you are so accurate on all of these points lol. He is a Wish version of Bill Clinton and its sad. Someone like Mayor Pete, Doug Jones, hell even Tim Kaine or people like that have a better chance at being President and winning than Newsom. He is just trying to capitalize on whatever fame he has right now.
Completely agree. He's a mostly competent governor. He should keep that job for a few more years then retire to his vineyard.
It is funny though, I have lived in SF for three years and only heard about his young gf and affair this summer. Very interesting how he was able to moved past it. Bill Clinton without the charm is very apt.
Edit: also. I love the joke that all of the politicians (Breed too) were eating at French Laundry during the pandemic because it was the first time they could get a res.
Ok, I really appreciated mentioning the Empire State Pride event and Kimberly Guillfoyle, because I remember listening to that on the radio and being gobsmacked -- I believe she said something like "I know you have a question for me, and the answer is yes, he is hung" and then when all the stuff about her making people at Fox uncomfortable with her bawdy talk came out I thought -- yeah that Kimberly Guillfoyle is really sex positive. Anyway I agree on all the Gavin points -- he will never be President -- I think he is attractive enough that if he had done a really good job of pandemic management (rolled out in home testing early, put kids back in school by the fall of 2020 etc) he could have been a contender despite all of his weaknesses -- but he didn't and so it's a joke. I also thought it was really weird that when Gavin and Kamala got together to decide who would run for Senate and who would run for Governor that the results ended up as they did. She always had a better case to make for being President someday, and being a good Governor would have been a much better way to launder being too liberal from California than being a Senator. But all of that is to say that Biden as a 2024 candidate is not a sure thing by any stretch -- it seems like he would beat Trump but not clear that he would beat anyone younger and while he is doing fine as President it feels a little like how people respected Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State but were repulsed by her as a presidential nominee. I understand that we don't have a clear preferable alternative, but I do think it's time to start making one and I agree that it's not Gavin but I think that we should be seeing Gretchen Whitmer on CNN and MSNBC all the time. It seems noteworthy to me that Biden won during a weird COVID election where he did far fewer public events than would normally be the case and I worry about how he would hold up in a normal campaign.
This was a fantastic and much needed takedown of Newsom.
To me, his sole appeal, if you can call it that, is: "Hey Democrats! I'm YOUR DeSantis!" Which, as a Democrat, if that is really what we need that is pretty fucking depressing.
I personally highly dislike Newsom and don't want him anywhere near the national political foreground...but I'm not sure how much evidence there is that he's actually off-putting the way you say he is. It's worrisome to me that, while obviously anecdotal, the universal reaction to him from all of the normie people in my life is that he's tall and handsome.
I suspect Josh knows perfectly well Biden is unlikely to be a candidate in 2024, when he will be 81. So what is the point of this rant, except self-indulgence?
Biden "renomination remains Democrats’ best chance to hold the White House in two years." ??? Your normally astute analysis just hit a huge "seriously?" bump. Newsom is smarmy and gross and looks like he's trying to be cast to take Donald Sutherland's place in the Hunger Games, and should most assuredly not run for POTUS, but Biden as dems best chance? Pretty bleak.
Just for clarification: Is the claim here that intra-party primary challenges (e.g., Ted Kennedy in '80, Pat Buchanan in '92) are inherently unseemly? Or is it that Newsom is doing something else that breaks decorum? Is it that he's pretending to put himself out there for, oh, say, 2028, while really angling for 2024, in the event some "unfortunate accident" were to befall the incumbent?
Historical question I truly don't know the answer to: How much of this sort of preliminary campaigning by other Democrats was going on during the will-he-or-won't-he phase of LBJ deciding whether to run again in '68?
Historical question I should know the answer to but am too addled to recall: Is there a more recent precedent that's directly on point?
Let’s be clear. This isn’t a Biden vs Newsom argument. Newsom would never primary Biden. It would be political suicide IMO and he wouldn’t be able to raise the $$$ to primary him. If Biden opts not to run, I agree with Josh. Harris would be a superior California candidate and, in candor, I don’t think either of them get the nomination. Neither get Dems the upper Midwest states they need to win to be competitive and I don’t think either play in Arizona either.
I think Biden’s “legislative victories” are being massively oversold here. He was gifted a D trifecta by Trump’s petulant meddling in Georgia runoffs where both D candidates were beaten in the original race, and used it almost entirely to spend money that a) boosted the inflation that could easily result in a recession when he’s trying to get re-elected and b) as Yglesias frequently points out, allows GOP governors to spend lavishly at home while bashing the source of the largesse.
What, if anything, will be different about life in the US as a result of the first half of Biden’s term in the long run? Presumably some bridges, mostly overpriced compared to European social democracies? On the biggest issue of the day, abortion, he can’t even effectively marshal legislative support to pin the Republicans into uncomfortable votes.
Obama turned his trifecta into the ACA. Whatever you think about it on the merits, you can’t deny that it’s still the regime under which American health care runs a decade later. What is comparable for Biden?
*This* is why I subscribed. It's everything I've thought about Newsom as a Californian but articulated better.
What really irks me is how overtly national every campaign he has run has been. Even the recall, the most prominent ad I saw featured Elizabeth Warren saying "Don't let Trump Republicans fool you!" Fine, I'm a Democrat I'm not going to let Larry Elder take charge, but they definitely decided the way to win was to frame it as part of the national struggle vs what Newsom will be doing in California for Californians.
A few weeks ago during the heat wave there was an alert to turn off our power to prevent blackouts. To our credit we as a state we did so. There are still ads to conserve electricity in the evenings. I'm glad a crisis was averted but what are we doing to increase capacity so we can actually use electricity when we want to. This is a local kitchen table issue and Newsom is totally absent here.
I miss Jerry Brown.
This: is harsh, but 💯 true. The man is literally plastic. Imagine him campaigning in West Virginia, etc.
I have immense respect for Nancy Pelosi, who I think has been an incredible Speaker, but she's of a different generation. Between Harris's wet thump and Newsom's general ick, I'm ready for a moratorium on California Democrats getting active nationally until we figure out what the heck's going on.
I had never made the connection that Newsom is Democrat's Ted Cruz until now. Thanks for the article!
"he might hit on your wife, if she's hot." hahahaha
Bitchy josh is best josh.
Thank you Josh. I obviously would prefer Newsom to a DeSantis presidency but at this point Newsom needs to worry more about CA than anything else. I think he's a decent Governor, but that doesn't mean you can win a national election, I hate that you are so accurate on all of these points lol. He is a Wish version of Bill Clinton and its sad. Someone like Mayor Pete, Doug Jones, hell even Tim Kaine or people like that have a better chance at being President and winning than Newsom. He is just trying to capitalize on whatever fame he has right now.
Completely agree. He's a mostly competent governor. He should keep that job for a few more years then retire to his vineyard.
It is funny though, I have lived in SF for three years and only heard about his young gf and affair this summer. Very interesting how he was able to moved past it. Bill Clinton without the charm is very apt.
Edit: also. I love the joke that all of the politicians (Breed too) were eating at French Laundry during the pandemic because it was the first time they could get a res.
Ok, I really appreciated mentioning the Empire State Pride event and Kimberly Guillfoyle, because I remember listening to that on the radio and being gobsmacked -- I believe she said something like "I know you have a question for me, and the answer is yes, he is hung" and then when all the stuff about her making people at Fox uncomfortable with her bawdy talk came out I thought -- yeah that Kimberly Guillfoyle is really sex positive. Anyway I agree on all the Gavin points -- he will never be President -- I think he is attractive enough that if he had done a really good job of pandemic management (rolled out in home testing early, put kids back in school by the fall of 2020 etc) he could have been a contender despite all of his weaknesses -- but he didn't and so it's a joke. I also thought it was really weird that when Gavin and Kamala got together to decide who would run for Senate and who would run for Governor that the results ended up as they did. She always had a better case to make for being President someday, and being a good Governor would have been a much better way to launder being too liberal from California than being a Senator. But all of that is to say that Biden as a 2024 candidate is not a sure thing by any stretch -- it seems like he would beat Trump but not clear that he would beat anyone younger and while he is doing fine as President it feels a little like how people respected Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State but were repulsed by her as a presidential nominee. I understand that we don't have a clear preferable alternative, but I do think it's time to start making one and I agree that it's not Gavin but I think that we should be seeing Gretchen Whitmer on CNN and MSNBC all the time. It seems noteworthy to me that Biden won during a weird COVID election where he did far fewer public events than would normally be the case and I worry about how he would hold up in a normal campaign.
This was a fantastic and much needed takedown of Newsom.
To me, his sole appeal, if you can call it that, is: "Hey Democrats! I'm YOUR DeSantis!" Which, as a Democrat, if that is really what we need that is pretty fucking depressing.
I personally highly dislike Newsom and don't want him anywhere near the national political foreground...but I'm not sure how much evidence there is that he's actually off-putting the way you say he is. It's worrisome to me that, while obviously anecdotal, the universal reaction to him from all of the normie people in my life is that he's tall and handsome.
I suspect Josh knows perfectly well Biden is unlikely to be a candidate in 2024, when he will be 81. So what is the point of this rant, except self-indulgence?
Biden "renomination remains Democrats’ best chance to hold the White House in two years." ??? Your normally astute analysis just hit a huge "seriously?" bump. Newsom is smarmy and gross and looks like he's trying to be cast to take Donald Sutherland's place in the Hunger Games, and should most assuredly not run for POTUS, but Biden as dems best chance? Pretty bleak.
Just for clarification: Is the claim here that intra-party primary challenges (e.g., Ted Kennedy in '80, Pat Buchanan in '92) are inherently unseemly? Or is it that Newsom is doing something else that breaks decorum? Is it that he's pretending to put himself out there for, oh, say, 2028, while really angling for 2024, in the event some "unfortunate accident" were to befall the incumbent?
Historical question I truly don't know the answer to: How much of this sort of preliminary campaigning by other Democrats was going on during the will-he-or-won't-he phase of LBJ deciding whether to run again in '68?
Historical question I should know the answer to but am too addled to recall: Is there a more recent precedent that's directly on point?
Let’s be clear. This isn’t a Biden vs Newsom argument. Newsom would never primary Biden. It would be political suicide IMO and he wouldn’t be able to raise the $$$ to primary him. If Biden opts not to run, I agree with Josh. Harris would be a superior California candidate and, in candor, I don’t think either of them get the nomination. Neither get Dems the upper Midwest states they need to win to be competitive and I don’t think either play in Arizona either.
I think Biden’s “legislative victories” are being massively oversold here. He was gifted a D trifecta by Trump’s petulant meddling in Georgia runoffs where both D candidates were beaten in the original race, and used it almost entirely to spend money that a) boosted the inflation that could easily result in a recession when he’s trying to get re-elected and b) as Yglesias frequently points out, allows GOP governors to spend lavishly at home while bashing the source of the largesse.
What, if anything, will be different about life in the US as a result of the first half of Biden’s term in the long run? Presumably some bridges, mostly overpriced compared to European social democracies? On the biggest issue of the day, abortion, he can’t even effectively marshal legislative support to pin the Republicans into uncomfortable votes.
Obama turned his trifecta into the ACA. Whatever you think about it on the merits, you can’t deny that it’s still the regime under which American health care runs a decade later. What is comparable for Biden?