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Ross Barkan's avatar

The hottest take of all, which you allude to, is that Columbia should just have in-person classes

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Colin Chaudhuri's avatar

I basically could not agree more and I say this as someone who's politics are very much to the left of yours and who likely has sympathies closer to the Palestinians*. There are a few things I wanted to add.

First, I've brought this up before on Matt Yglesias' substack but these protests are downstream of the fact we have as a culture wildly overromanticized the late 60s hippie movement. Maybe it's because the music from that era has endured so long (think CCR, think Hendrix, think anything associated with Woodstock), maybe because so many baby boomers lived through this period and clearly refuse to leave the stage or maybe just general "everything was better in the good ole days" mindset but man there is some rose tinted glasses about this movement. Maybe the most important thing to keep in mind; the hippie movement failed in its objective. The country elected Richard Nixon in 68 who very famously did not end the Vietnam War (in some ways made it worse given heightened bombing campaign and expansion to Cambodia. Hint hint to those protestors who say Trump can't be worse on this issue). And yet here we are seeing Columbia students very clearly aping the exact same tactics Columbia students used in 68. How did that work out?

Second. There is some opprobrium that should be thrown to older voters here. Again as Matt Yglesias has pointed out, campus controversy stories are some of the most read articles on the Times website. Given the age profile of the Times reader, this means that a whole lot of people over the age of 45 think this is one of the most important things to read about. And reality is Josh is right, these are mostly dumb college kids being dumb. This is not a harbinger of some youth oriented left wing rebellion that's going to take over America. This really doesn't warrant this much attention. I'm so glad Josh pointed out out small these protests really are. Take a look at those videos and take a closer look and see how many people are protestors and how many are onlookers taking videos on cell phones ore reporters. The latter is a much bigger part of these crowds than you realize once you look carefully.

Lastly, and related to my point about "rose tinted" glasses. Those 1968 hippie protests were not nearly as non-violent as history makes them out to be. I've brought up this example before, but please see this article about University of Georgia in https://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/articles/history-archaeology/student-movements-of-the-1960s/. Key quote "On five separate occasions from 1968 to 1972, student activists attempted unsuccessfully to burn down the military building on campus". I bring up this article as this is University of Georgia, not Columbia. And this is Georgia in 1968-1972; not exactly a hot bed of lefty or left of center thought back then. In fact, quite the opposite if you ready any history book.

* I actually don't really know Josh's views on the Gaza War. I just know his politics are to the right of mine. Actually wouldn't shock me if our actual views are pretty closely aligned.

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