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Jay Rogers's avatar

"... well-being and the agency of women in general".

What about the well-being of the other human in this equation.

On this site I understand I'm swimming upstream, but there are two humans here.

He or she it is not going to be a newborn sea-monkey.

My position is the mother and baby should be protected.

Unfortunately that makes me sound pro-abortion, which I do not consider myself.

Many will hide behind the rulings that say the unborn child does not have legal standing.

Humans created those rulings.

They can be re-interpreted as enlightenment occurs.

Let the attacks begin.

McMakinKP's avatar

Josh isn't arguing that there isn't an ethical argument regarding the life of a fetus or that men don't have opinions about it. He is merely pointing out that a portion of the population typically not thought of with regard to the issue of abortion is getting more consideration in order to build a larger majority for a political cause.

It's a point about politics, not ethics.

ShayBult's avatar

If you're expecting attacks - rather than civil disagreement - you haven't spent much time in the comments section here.

Jay Rogers's avatar

Spent enough time being the moderate to know what to expect.

WRDinDC's avatar

So what is your preferred policy?

Flume, Nom de's avatar

Do you think that this portends a future where the GOP just foregrounds abortion less? With Roe gone (the unifying goal is gone), and Republicans supporting candidates that are disreputable (and in their moral reckoning, personally accessories to murder), seems like the best move would be to talk about anything else.

Nick Coccoma's avatar

Thanks for this thoughtful post. In the wake of Dobbs--and AOC's call for men to speak out against it--I penned the story of my own journey to becoming a pro-choice Christian: https://nickcoccoma.substack.com/p/my-abortion-journey

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Flume, Nom de's avatar

Thing is, these nerd organizations are better than most! It's really hard to fight the social bubble you're in.

David Shor talks about this a lot. One of the big benefits to having these democratic data shops is that data to continually remind people that the median voter is a white middle aged high school graduate.

So it takes constant vigilance of the kind Josh wrote about to do good public outreach with a message your staff doesn't personally like as much.